Actually, if I may butt in, I had a discussion about this with a friend of mine. Literally about this, because she is a great Hannigram shipper and had simmiliar doubts.
As a person who read the book partially and tons of articles with direct quotes, and some seriously disturbing fics (though by far not as many as the mentioned friend) - I want to tell you what I've told her. Obviously you might agree or not, but this is my take on it.
Disregarding for the moment the issue that this book has with BDSM community and consent, etc. etc. etc. We've all read fics that have same issues. Or at least we know the exist.
Okay, so for me, the issue here boils down to this: I'm fine with most disturbing, porny, freaky, kinky, dark relationships stories - as long as they're portrayed as such.
Quick explenation: Dark fic with evil Hannibal doing disturbing stuff to Will? Including manipulation, torture, non-con? Fine. Whatever stirs your cauldron.
Happy rom-com fluffy fic in which Hannibal tortures, manipulates and rapes Will and it's shown as happy relationship and grand love, and Will reacts to it all by curing Hannibal from cannibalism with his love? No. So much no.
In simplest terms: I don't mind that people get off on non-con, if it's tagged as non-con and we are all aware it's non-con. If author tags it as domestic fluff and write it as such except oh oops, there will also be rape, I will comment and I won't be pleasant.
If you write rape, call it that, don't call it romance. Christian Gray rapes Anastacia, and everyone from narrator, through author, to most of the readers says it's a beautiful love story.
And no, I'm not calling people reading this and getting off on it idiots. Especially since there's so little erotica in mainstream literature, I can't blame them for jumping on whatever there is.
My main argument is not against them, it's against the book itself (or author, if you will), it describes rape and abuse, and calls it romance and happiness. And that? That's not cool.
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Date: 2015-03-09 09:23 pm (UTC)As a person who read the book partially and tons of articles with direct quotes, and some seriously disturbing fics (though by far not as many as the mentioned friend) - I want to tell you what I've told her. Obviously you might agree or not, but this is my take on it.
Disregarding for the moment the issue that this book has with BDSM community and consent, etc. etc. etc. We've all read fics that have same issues. Or at least we know the exist.
Okay, so for me, the issue here boils down to this: I'm fine with most disturbing, porny, freaky, kinky, dark relationships stories - as long as they're portrayed as such.
Quick explenation: Dark fic with evil Hannibal doing disturbing stuff to Will? Including manipulation, torture, non-con? Fine. Whatever stirs your cauldron.
Happy rom-com fluffy fic in which Hannibal tortures, manipulates and rapes Will and it's shown as happy relationship and grand love, and Will reacts to it all by curing Hannibal from cannibalism with his love? No. So much no.
In simplest terms: I don't mind that people get off on non-con, if it's tagged as non-con and we are all aware it's non-con. If author tags it as domestic fluff and write it as such except oh oops, there will also be rape, I will comment and I won't be pleasant.
If you write rape, call it that, don't call it romance. Christian Gray rapes Anastacia, and everyone from narrator, through author, to most of the readers says it's a beautiful love story.
And no, I'm not calling people reading this and getting off on it idiots. Especially since there's so little erotica in mainstream literature, I can't blame them for jumping on whatever there is.
My main argument is not against them, it's against the book itself (or author, if you will), it describes rape and abuse, and calls it romance and happiness. And that? That's not cool.